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by Scott Fleming on 30/01/06
This is at a local auction. I am not sure it is Whitefriars but I am sure I have seen it before.
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John Crowe31/12/08 How didyou manage to do that, Paul?
Paul Scoble02/02/06 cheers Scott - dohhh! I really did not notice - all done now, took some practice staying under 400K - whatever all that means, memory or size etc - lost some quality though on pic as managed to do it on 110K.
Al ot of comment on this which is good. I have seen these Royal Castle vases. They are really quite crap and not completely circular. This vase was much better quality and heavy. I have seen the Amber one in the Mistaken section and it is most like that. I don't know enough to say if it is a Davidson one or not.
Scott Fleming02/02/06 If you look above this comment you will see the "UPLOAD NEW ITEM" button. Click on it and you will see all you need to know.
how do i is it, upload a photo or several? instructions please, hope you do not mind Scott....
Paul Scoble02/02/06 well done for having two vases with labels on David, but the resolution on Scotts picture is fine. It is exactly like the one I have here & nothing like the 'Davidson' one on mistaken identities, as i have that vase too. That section though is not always correct & are often wrong when describing glass in an area where my main strengths are, Scadinavian. I shall look into uploading photos (not that computer literate so may take a few days) & shall send 'em all up. There is extra ribbed texturing on the bumpy bits as you can see in the photo as on the one here, correct, but this is not like the Davidson luna ashtray I have, or the pewter vase, presuming they all have thes ame or similar textured effect. Cheers Paul.
David Fletcher01/02/06 I have two Royale Castle vases with the labels. I made this fact public a long time ago. This one is nothing like it. What you can't see too well in the picture probably due to its size in this section is the extra ribbed texturing on the "bumpy bits". The colour doesn't help either. I have had a look at a few Davidson Luna pieces on the net and I am sure that this is what this one is. Maybe Scott can post the photo elsewhere at a better resolution?
Emmi Smith01/02/06 Wish I could Paul, but he almost puts the "Closed" sign on the door when he sees me coming now!!!! Seems he doesn't like constructive criticism!
One more coment - I have just looked at the mistaken identities section to find the amber vase. The amber vase is identical to my pewter one (except colour!!). This is classed as Davidsons. The blue one shown here, like the one i have as well, is 120grams lighter than the Pewter coloured one, now presumed Davidsons. The pewter vase has a very similar pattern & feel to it as a Luna range ashtray I have. Do you wish you never asked Scott...lol !!! I am sure yours is not Davidsons but thanks to David, it looks like I have managed to identify one of mine as Davidsons at least.
The blue one, which has an irregular base as well (just like Royal Castle bamboo vase) is for me anyway, Royal Castle. Cheers Scott - without you guys putting these items up for debate a ot of us would remain in the dark, including me!!!!
PS Emmi, ask your local antiques dealer if he wants another Pewter Luna Vase -?50 to him & you are on a 40% commission!!!
I personally do not believe Royal Castle made just one standard shape & size of vase. How to go bust overnight....
I would be sure that Royal Castle made different sized vases. I have three with me now. One identical to the one shown (easily best of the bunch), the common one with the vertical bamboo effect (clear) with irregular shape & one with a bark effect (pewter). Each of these glass vases all have one thing in common - the vertical lines near the rim supported by a fine ridge underneath. A trait associated with Royal Castle.
It would be nice to think it is Davidson Luna glass but the Luna Range glass I have seems to be of far greater quality, heavier & has a completely different bark/textured effect.
I would like to be proven wrong on this one, so keep your fingers crossed Scott as Davidsons isn't too bad at all. Cheers, Paul.
Emmi Smith01/02/06 I agree David. the R.C ones are also much slimmer, less than 2.25 ins. across the rim,(which is not completely round either) and very defined vertical texture(no real bark effect). I have recently seen a Pewter colour Davidson 8 inches high, currently being marketed as rare W/F Bark, in my local antiques shop where they are always "right" of course!!!
David Fletcher01/02/06 This is not like any of the Royal Castle vases I have. There is an Amber coloured vase in the mistaken identities section which looks very like this one. It is said to be from the Davidson Luna range. Maybe that's where you recognise it from.
Paul Scoble31/01/06 This is Royal Castle. It is distinguished by the collar & vertical lines near the top of the rim. This is also made of glass without any lead content. The glass is coloured through - view the base - Whitefriars bark vases are clear at the base & to the sides as the colour is within.WF are also a lot heavier. Royal Castle have a variety of glass similar to WF to look at to the untrained eye. It is often passed off on eBay as Whitefriars??????? I hope this is helpful. Paul.